Gen 16 cymbals cracked

This warranty does not extend coverage to power supply, cables, cymbal or hihat mounting parts, or other miscellaneous hardware components. Zildjian 16 k crash cymbal cracked john s gear reverb. Unlike an electronic drum kits rubber cymbal triggers, the gen 16 cymbal pack offers you real cymbals. Theres a master output volume knob and a phone volume knob. Unlike cymbal triggers, gen16 cymbals may be played with sticks, rods or mallets. Has anyone tried out the gen 16 cymbals with the td20 without using the zildjian cymbal processor. And even if you dont, are the cymbal sounds in the zildjian processor enough of an improvement over the roland sounds to make it a worthwhile purchase. Buy zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 16 18 cymbal set. Ae cymbals zildjian guarantees the original owner of the gen16 cymbals for a period of two years or normal use, without accident or abuse, from date of purchase. I would love a set of triggered space muffins or may go with silencing and triggering a good vintage set of rogers and e cymbals. I realize these are metal, but, nonetheless, they seem very thin and they have hundreds of small holes all through the surface. Other packages are available, as are individual cymbals. Avedis zildjian gen 16 quick start manual pdf download.

Zildjian ae gen16 cymbal editor help and exchange thread. Zildjian gen16 drumtec drumtec uses cookies for a better online experience. Zildjian gen16 with roland td20sx research 051915, 04. Jun 10, 20 zildjian changed the game with these cymbals. Jpg i have read the access tool documentation and will. With the builtin dsp engine, you can instantly change the tone of your zildjian buffed bronze cymbals to fit the mood, vibe, or tune. The hi hats were just ok, but mine developed a crack after only a month of gentle at. Looks as if major updates are coming for the zildjian gen16 ae cymbals first reported back in 2011, new edrums at winter namm 2011. Like many drummers, youre probably sitting on a stack of used or cracked cymbals hey, it happens. Zildjian gen 16 cymbals and accessories in stock for rapid delivery at. This video covers the basics of proper cymbal care. Single hihat onlymaybe could be used as a crash has cracks on the cymbal so good for parts or project. While electronic drums and percussion have been around for years, the ae acoustic electric cymbal is a new twist that uses established technology to create essentially a completely new instrument.

Each gen 16 cymbal utilizes a patented pattern of holes, in varying sizes to reduce the sound pressure level spl of an acoustic cymbal. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 1618 acousticelectric. With the gen16 cymbals, zildjian starts with garbage cymbals to begin with. Theyre electronic in the sense that you can send the signal to the front of house mix but really, theyre super quiet cymbals that have their own. The yamaha pizza slice cymbals work fair and look dufus. Zildjian zbt rock 16 crash cymbal for sale online ebay.

My main reason for buying them was i wanted to get away from the all rubber cymbal routine. Im new to this group and would like to know how members feel about other model andor brand cymbals that might be used instead of the brass bronze an. Some people actually prefer the sound of a broken cymbal. I currently have for gen 16 cymbals, 20 inch ride, 18 crash, 16 crash, 14 inch hihats. That is why you buy the dsp from zildjian to use with the gen 16. They are made of a unique alloy and when played, feel exactly like a normal cymbal. Zildjian gen 16 electronic cymbals and accessories gear4music. Find great deals on ebay for zildjian gen16 and zildjian gen16 module. I assumed that this was what zildjian was intending to do with this. At evolution music of logan square, we attempt to highlight cosmetic defects if any by picturing every angle of every piece of gear so you know exactly what you are getting. It may work well as as stack, but it will be difficult to get a sustained tone. Quality is important to us and we use these opportunities to track the manufacture of the cymbal in question to ensure quality continues to. Following these guidelines will help to keep your cymbals.

For those that dont know, zildjian gen16 ae cymbals are the world first electric acoustic cymbals. Zildjian gen16 14 hihat drum cymbal gen 16 cracks ebay. A break down of the fundamentals behind playing concert cymbals, with james campbell. For example, are they available in real sizes, such as a 21 inch ride, and does the ride actually feel like its real. When a cymbal has a small crack at the edge, the easiest and most common fix is to simply remove the crack and surrounding material. We did this recently with the gen16 buffed bronze and the new s family of cymbals. Call me a bell bronze cymbal snot, but id rather play nice bell bronze cymbals or rubber roland cymbals that offer triggering over the atrocious sounding b8 mess that is gen16.

Page 14 wichtige sicherheitshinweise bitte lesen sie diese anleitung. Edited from the previous version because there was a warranty and i was being dumb. Whether you need a new ride cymbal, crash cymbal, or even a china cymbal, getting a particular tone that stands out takes time and effort. Get the best price on zildjian gen16 at guitar center.

Shop for the zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 16 18 acousticelectric cymbal pack and receive free shipping on your order and the guaranteed lowest price. Cymbals can break for a few reasons, but most of the time its due to abuse. Pricing may vary, depending on if you are buying the set, which includes the module. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 14, 16, 20 cymbal set. Cymbal sets gen16 buffed bronze cymbal set 16 18 compare. Im not looking into buying them or anything, i just saw them and hadnt seen anything like it before. Finding a great cymbal to complement your drum kit can be quite difficult. The back bone of the all new gen16 product offering is the gen16 buffed bronze cymbal. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 1418 acousticelectric cymbal pack. Just got a 16 and a 10 agean from drumtec in germany. Very fast delivery to denmark where i live, so satisfied with that part.

These are low volume cymbals that use a direct pickup. The gen 16 sound sampling sets that zildjian offered should have been created so that they would be easily used as the sampling for the gen 16 cymbal set. Get the guaranteed best price on electronic cymbals like the zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 141820 acousticelectric cymbal pack at musicians friend. Gen16 ae cymbals dcp access tool pragmatic designs. Zildjian craftsman drew upon the companys rich design history to make subtle but important changes to the bell profiles of the original gen16 cymbals. My tour manager found the best deals on amazon, you can also find these cymbals here.

The digital cymbal processor dcp is the heart of the gen16 acoustic electric cymbal system. Welcome to a new world of sonic possibilities with the revolutionary zildjian gen16 acoustic electric system. Kit presets allow you to create and save custom kits of cymbal presets that you can recall instantly. Ive played drums for over twenty years and have cracked a couple cymbals, mostly in my younger days. Every forum or youtube video i look at about these cymbals has so much negative comments about the product. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze series ae cymbals represent the next generation of reduced volume cymbals. Sweetwater s sales engineers are regarded as the most experienced and knowledgeable professionals in the music industry, with extensive music backgrounds and intense training on the latest products and technologies.

Place a gen16 foam washer over the pickup, place your ae cymbal on the washer. Zildjian gen16 18 ride drum cymbal gen 16 only comes with the cymbals pictured. It is very rare for a cymbal to break when used correctly. Many people think gen 16 z cymbals are electric cymbals and plug them in using either roland, yamaha or any other electric module and have terrible results. If you need your broken cymbals back on your kit, go to our website. The pitch shifter block is capable of very dramatic and interesting alterations of cymbal sounds but is accompanied by some limitations and caveats. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze cymbals produce a richer and warmer tone then their gen16 nickelplated predecessors. The church, that i play for, has a roland td20sx purchased in 2009. Cracking a cymbal, though, doesnt have to mean game over. Using the knowledge gained from the original gen16 nickelplated cymbal, the craftsmen at zildjian used their knowledge and rich design history to improve the. A lot of drummers buy second hand cymbals to save on money. I am sure you will find plenty of people on here who play all the time and have never cracked a cymbal. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 141820 acousticelectric.

Additional lathing has also been applied on the larger size. Drumming is an expensive enough game as it is, never mind when your beloved gear decides to give up the ghost. Review zildjian gen 16 cymbals gen 16 is a division in the zildjian cymbal company responsible for the digital vault software with samples of the best and benchmarked zildjian cymbals for digital use. Delivery time 12 days zildjian gen16 ae 18 crashride cymbal returned. Get the guaranteed best price on electronic cymbals like the zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 1618 acousticelectric cymbal pack at. The access tool can display a variety of information about your cymbal processor in the dcp info window, notably its firmware and hardware versions, which may be important if you ever need to contact gen 16 tech support. Mar 30, 2018 zildjian gen16 bb 16 crash becken g1616c the new zildjian gen16 buffed bronze cymbals definitely gained sound and that even at decreased strokevolume experience an entirely new cymbal concept, arranging an absolutely authentic. I wouldnt go any smaller than a 16 z custom i am a zildjian nut, and would really recommend starting in. Ingenious magnetic holder for the gen 16 ae digital cymbal system. Gen16 dcp access tool users guide pragmatic designs. Gen 16 buffed bronze crash cymbal gen 16 buffed bronze product overview using the knowledge gained from the original gen16 nickelplated cymbal, the craftsmen at zildjian used their knowledge and rich design history to improve the sound and performance of the gen16 reduced volume acoustic cymbal. They can usually narrow down when the cymbal was made and what model it might be.

Get the guaranteed best price on electronic cymbals like the zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 1618 acousticelectric cymbal pack at musicians friend. Quality is important to us and we use these opportunities to track the manufacture of the cymbal in question to ensure quality continues to improve. The gen16 cymbals though feel like real cymbals and because the module recieves signals from mics, the response is pretty much on par of tha of a real cymbal. Zildjian gen16 buffed bronze 1618 acousticelectric cymbal. Regardless of which approach we take its important to understand that the cymbal will never sound the way it did before it cracked. I have done this procedure numerous times with great success. Smooth, dark, and moody extra thin and extra dark unlathed bell is complex and penetrating traditional kseries hammering enhances darkness and musicality. Do you lose functionality or nuance by using the gen 16s as triggers on the roland brain. The zildjian sound lab has created the next generation of reduced volume cymbals, the gen16 buffed bronze series. We stock a wide selection of zildjian gen 16 cymbals, packs and accessories including splash, crash, china, hi hat and ride cymbals. The most comprehensive gen16 package is the ae368, comprising inch hihats, 16 and 18inch crash and ride, the ae digital cymbal processor plus mounting bracket and cabling. My 16 crash has what looks like sharp around the edges, wear and scuff marks all around it, wear marks and what looks like the making of keyhole in the center. The gen16 buffed bronze cymbal produces a richer and warmer tone then the original gen16 nickel plated cymbal.

There is a small dent at the edge see pics and the slightest sign of keyholing, but no other flaws. Firstly, if youre using the original gen 16 acoustic mic pickups, be aware that any bleed coming through a channel that has pitch shift applied is. If your cymbal does not have a serial number, email the zildjian customer care team with the size and weight of the cymbal as well as a few pictures of the trademark and any other notable features. They can be brushed and choked like traditional cymbals because they are real cymbals. The mics are very sensetive though, and youll get sympathetic vibrations from other sources which happens with acoustic cymbals too anyway. Here are a few things ive learned along the way that can help prevent your cymbals from cracking. Top 5 cymbal stacks from stacktober zildjian cymbal blog.

My kit and cymbals are kept in my garage where its sort of cold but not reaaallly cold so could that have something to do with it. The new zildjian gen 16 buffed bronze ae cymbals which is an update to their popular nickel plated gen 16 ae cymbals. Slide a gen16 cymbal sleeve onto your cymbal stand and place the pickup over the sleeve. The gen16 module picks up each strike and movement of the cymbals. If you find that you are breaking cymbals often, the problem is usually related to misapplication, positioning, or striking technique. The propersized cymbals are a big step in making the ekit feel and play more like an acoustic kit. Page remove your existing cymbal felts and cymbal sleeve. The photo shows a side by side comparison of the zildjian gen 16 and the agean r in the 16 size. Zildjian gen16 with roland td20sx research vdrums forum. The silver cymbals are discontinued and even the used sector is getting slimmer. This page gives you an overview of all products listed in the zildjian gen16 e cymbals category.

Ok, about a month or so ago i posted asking for opinions on the zildjian gen 16 cymbals. Hellfire electronic drum systems zildjian gen 16 buffed bronze. The less material removed, the less impact it will have on the sound. Most zildjian gen16 are eligible for free shipping. We recommend all users upgrade to the latest firmware version for the most uptodate features. Variety packs free delivery possible on eligible purchases. As such, the cymbals are aging and were looking to replace some rubber. A zildjian zbt 16 crash cymbal cracked in poor condition. The cymbals respond wonderfully to chokes and swells. Taking low volume cymbals one step further if you want to trigger real cymbal sounds, the zildjian gen16 low volume cymbal pack gives the same feel as the l80 range, with added electronic cymbal processing.

An unofficial forum for gen 16 cymbals, electronics, and accessories. Its a thin crash cymbal with a beautiful vintage tone. Then, these cymbals are thinned down and filled with holes, making them sound even worse. But there was no crossuse of these two products even though they shared the name gen 16. Cymbals that show factory defects within two years of their original purchase are eligible for examination at our factory. At sweetwater, we strive to offer you the most reliable products. Julia i will post an overhead shot of my kit for you. Gen16 buffed bronze ds cymbal set hihats, 16 crash. Gen 16 warrants its products to be free from defects in materials and workmanship, under normal use, and provided that the product is owned by the original registered user and is free of accidents and abuse.

Zildjian cymbals carry a two year warranty, from date of purchase, against manufacturing flaws. There is a little difference in the weight of the cymbals. Well take those cymbals off your hands and pay you instore credit towards the purchase of new cymbals. Results will vary from sounding like a broken cheap china, to wow, thats cool sounding. Read a lot of negative stuff, some good, but yeah, mostly bad. Zildjian experts will evaluate the damage and issue a replacement cymbal, unless it appears the damage is related to improper use or care. While electronic drums and percussion have been around for years, the ae acoustic electric cymbal is a new twist that uses established technology to create essentially a. Zildjian gen16 buff bronze box set wdirect source pickups. You can adjust the individual volume level of each cymbal on the brain and also pan the cymbal. I know we have looked at these before but today i managed to try out three avedis zildjian gen 16 intelligent acoustic electric cymbals a hihat, a ride and a crash cymbal.